Equinox Gold Corp. (EQX) Q2 2021 Earnings Call Transcript

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Equinox Gold Corp. (NYSEMKT:EQX)
Q2 2021 Earnings Call
Aug 05, 2021, 10:00 a.m. ET

Contents:

  • Prepared Remarks
  • Questions and Answers
  • Call Participants

Prepared Remarks:

Operator

Welcome to the Equinox Gold’s second-quarter 2021 financial results and corporate update conference call and webcast. [Operator instructions] The conference is being recorded. [Operator instructions] I would now like to turn the conference over to Rhylin Bailie, vice president, investor relations for Equinox Gold. Please go ahead.

Rhylin BailiePresident, Investor Relations

Thank you, operator, and thank you, everybody, for joining us this morning. We will, of course, be making a number of forward-looking statements today. So please do take the time to visit our website, SEDAR and EDGAR to download our continuous disclosure documents. I will now turn the conference call over to Christian Milau, CEO, for opening remarks.

Christian MilauChief Executive Officer

Thanks, Rhylin, and welcome, everyone, to the Quarter 2 results call. We’re pleased with the quarter. And as usual, there’s been no shortage of news and activity. The company has just been so active in the first half of the year and really pleased to get to this point where we said this was a year of big investment.

As we invested in our mines, we look to get projects ready to build or continue building them to explore our assets and to keep investing money in to build the future of this company. And we have a long-term vision that’s in place here. And things are — basically ended this quarter as expected. It was a quarter very similar to Quarter 1.

We produced about 125,000 ounces of gold, and we had a good safety record for the quarter. Pleased with that performance. COVID continues to sort of moderate. Obviously, the new Delta variant does seem to peek its head a little bit in various locations, although it’s had minimal impact on the operations.

And really pleased with how the operations have adapted to the new environment with COVID there. We’ve probably hit that trough, which we thought we would do around midyear this year, where we said the first couple of quarters will be a little tougher. We are coming out of the rainy season in Northern Brazil as well and with the investment periods at Mesquite and Castle ramp-up. And obviously, we’ve had a challenge with Los Filos over the last year, as we’ve taken over ownership, but pleased to be coming through a period and getting toward, hopefully, a period of stability going forward here at Los Filos.

So we’re turning to a very catalyst-rich period of the year in the second half of this year and excited to walk you through this presentation and indicate where we see the future opportunities and that long-term vision. In terms of the actual results, like I said, just — we sold just under 125,000 ounces for the year. Our all-in sustaining costs were slightly down from previous quarters, and Pete will walk you through some detail on that in our slightly revised guidance. We did take a $28 per ounce write-down on the Los Filos inventory with the shutdown there and the less — lower production, the cost of the actual ounces going up on the leach pad was fairly high for the quarter.

So that does impact the overall all-in sustaining costs, which we hope not to see much in the future. When we turn over to the recent highlights on the next Slide No. 4. In terms of construction development and exploration, we continue along with Santa Luz.

Doug will walk you through that, but pleased to see it on budget and on time. And now we’re getting to about half complete now. We’re still on track for roughly building a mine per year over the last three years, and this year will be no different. So things tracking well there.

We’ve advanced early works at Greenstone. We’re getting ready for construction here in the near term. In the second half of this year, we would like to be launching into full construction, but we have had a very productive summer. The team has done a great job of getting camps and tree clearing and all that work done.

So Doug will walk you through a little more detail and a couple of photos on that. Lots of drilling ongoing, and I’ll leave that to Doug to talk about, but really excited with the areas we have decided to invest in from an exploration perspective and expect to see some results from that in the second half of the year as well. In terms of the operations, I mean, the one key point, I will stop on for a second here. Obviously, the Los Filos blockades that we had last quarter were frustrating for us.

I’m sure for shareholders as well. And we’ve come through that period. We have got those resolved, and obviously, a lot shorter period than the original one last year. The union did go back to work, and I think there was a real frustration level of not being paid in — for a period that they had walked out on and a legal blockade there.

And they’ve gone back to work. There was pressure from communities and certain union leaders to get back to work and start earning a wage again. So pleased to see them back on the job. And really kudos to Greg and the team.

They’ve got things ramped back up fairly quickly there, and we’ll give you a bit more color on the operation in a few slides here. And also, the community blockade from Xochipala, smaller community, quite a distance away from the mine, another unfortunate legal blockade. That situation has been resolved. We do appreciate the support from the communities and from the government and the district attorney to actually step in and really put some pressure on to get them back to work as well.

And again, we’ve gotten back into the Guadalupe open pit. So please see us operating at full capacity across all the pits and undergrounds on the site there at Los Filos. And in terms of other corporate actions for the quarter, we completed the acquisition of Premier Gold Mines. It feels like a long time ago, but it actually completed during the second quarter.

I think, there’s some exciting stuff going to be coming from that, and we’ll walk you through, obviously, the Greenstone project. Mercedes has been integrated. Ewan is doing a great job on i-80, and we’re really excited about that as an investor where we own 30% of it. We, obviously, took up our pro rata interest in their financing during the quarter.

So things are going well there. We’ve also acquired an additional 10% of Greenstone, as I think most are aware, but we love 50% of the project. We love 60% even more. And we’ve been working well with Orion and the project team to get that ready for launch into construction here in the second half.

We sold Pilar. It’s a gain on the financial statements, but we sold it for almost $50 million when you add in the royalty and the equity interest that we have. And we published our first ESG report. And again, that’s a really important area for us to now start communicating and putting out a lot more public disclosure.

So I think, you should expect to see a lot more information on a quarterly basis, but also, we’ll be looking very closely at things like our emissions, managing our key areas, where we think we can make a big difference going forward, which areas that have diesel emissions, and obviously, our energy sources in various countries will be looked at for more efficient ways of running the business. And I’ll pass it over to Peter to walk you through the financial highlights on the next couple of slides.

Pete HardieChief Financial Officer

Thanks, Christian. During the quarter, we sold 125,000 ounces at a little over $1,800 an ounce for revenues of $226 million. Cost-per-ounce basis, our costs actually came down from Q1, about $50 an ounce for cash cost to a little over $1,080 an ounce and about $100 an ounce to about $1,382 on an all-in sustaining cost-per-ounce basis. That resulted in mine operating earnings of $46 million, which is an increase of about $4 million over the prior quarter.

As Christian mentioned, we had a very busy quarter on the corporate activity front, resulted in a lot of net income for $326 million or earnings per share of about $1.10. Included in there are a number of noncash gains, including $50 million on the sale of those Solaris shares that Christian mentioned. In addition, with the sale of the shares, we have a change in classification of how we account for that investment from effectively a cost basis to a fair-value basis. That resulted in an increase or a gain of $186 million.

We had a gain on the sale of Pilar of $45 million. And then, we have the other items that typically are noncash items, which were gains for the quarter like unrealized gains on foreign exchange hedges, etc., for about $43 million. When you adjust our net income for those items, we arrive at $3.1 million on an adjusted basis and $0.01 a share earnings also on an adjusted basis. Our cash flow before changes in noncash working capital was $32 million, and that equates to about $0.11 a share on a basic basis.

With all of the activity in our operations with respect to our balance sheet remained strong, our June 30 cash and equivalents was $334 million, and our net liquidity was $530 million when you add in the $200 million of undrawn revolver that we have. And our net debt is $216 million. This leaves us in a great position to fund our growth profile as we move forward. With respect to our investments, we did put some money into i-80 Gold to maintain our 30% interest.

Current market value of that is a little over — is over $100 million, and we sold 10 million shares of Solaris and warrants. And when you look at the fair value of that investment, it’s over $300 million. So included — so the value of our investments is now over $400 million and that is not included in the net liquidity figure that I mentioned previously of $530 million. We updated our guidance for 2021.

The range is now — on a production basis, the range is now 560,000 to 625,000 ounces. Overall, our mines are actually performing on or better than planned, generally speaking, with the obvious exception of Los Filos. We decreased guidance there by about 50,000 ounces. That’s offset by increases at Aurizona of 10,000 ounces.

We’re expecting access to higher-grade ore there in the second half of the year. And 5,000 at RDM because they had a great first half of the year. Castle Mountain, we’ve decreased the production guidance by about 10,000 ounces, and that’s due to the weaker start in the first half of the year. At Los Filos, the reduction is, obviously, in part due to — or primarily due to the blockades, which suspended operations for parts of June and July, and also had an impact on the Bermejal underground development to push it out further, which delays our access to higher-grade ore.

On a cost basis, our range is now $1,025 to $1,075 an ounce. And that’s the result of two primary influences. The first is, of course, the reduction in overall production for the year. And the second is we are seeing cost escalation on consumables and energy, primarily in the U.S.

and Brazil. Overall, looking at the figures, Aurizona — pardon, so those cost increases, pardon me, carry through on an all-in sustaining basis. Our sustaining capital itself, as you can see on the slide, is held steady on a group basis. And then, on a mine basis, overall on a — with respect to our all-in sustaining cost per ounce were down about $50 an ounce at Aurizona.

That’s a result of a decrease in some sustaining capital. And you see the primary increases, of course, at Los Filos due to the reduction in overall ounces. And at Castle Mountain, where we’re doing a pad expansion, and there’s been an increase in liner costs. On a nonsustaining basis, you can see that costs have come down.

That’s primarily at Santa Luz, where we have a reduction in 19 million ounces — or pardon me, $19 million for the year. And that’s primarily a result of timing of spend. The project is on budget, it’s on schedule. We’re just not incurring the payables as quickly as expected.

So that $19 million would push out of this year into 2022. And with that, I’ll turn it over to Doug Reddy, our chief operating officer, for an operations update.

Doug ReddyChief Operating Officer

Thanks, Pete. I just would like to say that there are two main themes for the operations on how — what’s happened in the first half and how it affects in the second half of the year and going into 2022. The first one is waste stripping, where we’ve had large programs at Mesquite and RDM, as well as waste stripping happening at Aurizona and Los Filos. So all of those investments in the waste stripping makes for a stronger second half of the year into next year.

And the second aspect is a big effort on our — by our exploration team. 51,000 meters have been — has been drilled so far this year. And that’s an investment in the long term at each one of our mines, both within the mines and near to the mine. So I look at those as how they affect the future for each one of our operations.

If we look at Mesquite, we completed the Brownie stripping campaign, and we’re looking at a stronger H2, as we mine oxide ore in that pit. The exploration has been focused on mine life extension, and that’s the same thing we’ve done every year with Mesquite, where there’s opportunity to be able to extend the life. It is a very giving overall system there. Q2 production, 24,185 ounces and an all-in sustaining cost of $1,520 per ounce.

At Castle Mountain, we’ve continued to — our team has continued to work on optimizing the leach pad and plant. We have had issues with percolation on the leach pad, but we’ve managed to see the daily ounces being doubled and Q2 versus Q1 has been a doubling of the ounces being produced at Castle Mountain. Q2 production was 6,128 ounces at an all-in sustaining cost of $1,026 per ounce. Los Filos, the operations restarted well after the interruptions that we’ve had.

H2 should be a strong second half of the year. We are in mining at the Guadalupe open pit. And as Pete mentioned, we have been doing the underground development in Bermejal underground. We should see ore coming through late in the year from Bermejal.

Our Q2 production was 27,079 ounces and all-in sustaining cost of $2,016 per ounce. We also look forward to the completion of the updated CIL plant study, which will come in the second half of this year. Mercedes mine is a — it’s a steady producer. We are campaign milling.

So that means that we do have an opportunity to increase throughput and production, and there’s good exploration upside. There’s a program happening in several areas of Mercedes with good results coming in. The second-quarter production attributable to Equinox was 10,708 ounces at an all-in sustaining cost of $1,226 an ounce. And H2 should be a consistent level of production from Mercedes for the company.

So looking at Brazil, Aurizona had a heavy rainfall in the quarter, but the mining went really well. That was a contrast to a year prior. The team did a very good job of being able to — to be able to mine during the rainy season. And the processing plant was able to also utilize a portion of the stockpile that had been built up during the previous dry season.

So we’re looking at a strong second half of the year as we come fully into the dry season in that portion of Brazil. And production in the second quarter was 26,830 ounces at an all-in sustaining cost of $1,083 per ounce. We’re very much excited for the delivery of the pre-feasibility study that’s been looking at the underground potential at Aurizona. Large drill program was done in 2020, wrapped up at the start of 2021, and that study is coming to completion in the second half of this year.

So we’ll see how that impacts Aurizona and looks at the overall production that will come from that mine in the long run. For Fazenda, it’s had steady underground production in the second quarter, albeit mining from a few lower grade areas. We had scheduled to open up a new open pit, which has now opened up. It just didn’t happen as early as we expected.

So that will be contributing in the second half of the year. Q2 production was 13,130 ounces at an all-in sustaining cost of $1,263 per ounce. And we’re doing a consistent long-term exploration program, both within mine and around the mine, including the area between Fazenda and Santa Luz, which I think is going to be very exciting in the coming months for the company and results in numerous targets that we have in the 70-kilometer long Greenstone belt that’s between Fazenda and Santa Luz. At RDM, we had — we now have a very full water dam, I would say.

The first time I can look at that water dam and say that we have ample water for the rest of 2021 and all of 2022. And in spite of an exceptional rainy season, we mined 19% more ore than we did in Q1, and we’re doing a major pit expansion through this year that provides access to the lower portion of the ore body. Q2 production was 14,089 ounces at an all-in sustaining cost of $1,073 per ounce. And we’re looking at steady production through H2 and a strong 2022 based on the expansion work that’s been happening in the pit.

So looking at our growth and development projects, I’ll say, it’s really good to be with a company that has such a great pipeline of growth projects. Looking at Santa Luz, which is in construction now, as Christian mentioned, we are 50% complete on the construction, and our first gold pour is on track for Q1 of 2022. I’ll elaborate a bit more on Santa Luz on the next slide, but let’s move down to the other growth projects. Los Filos expansion, we’ve been developing additional open pit and underground mines.

Guadalupe is now providing ore. So that one is already part of the expansion at Los Filos. Bermejal Underground development has resumed. We’ll see ore coming from that late in the year.

And we’ve been finalizing the study for the new 8,000-tonne per day CIL plant, which will process the higher-grade ore at the site. That study will also see the potential to increase reserves and possibly extend the overall mine life. But critical for us is to work out a longer-term stability with the communities so that we can continue to work on expansions at Los Filos. For the Greenstone project, a very exciting project overall, 5.5 million ounces of reserves and a 14-year mine life.

The early works are already underway, and we’re looking at full-scale construction being targeted for Q4 of 2021. So keep an eye for that later on this year, as we work through all the preparatory work that’s been happening on that project. And then, on Castle Mountain expansion, the average gold production that was in the Phase 2 expansion is 218,000 ounces per year. We would expect to start the Phase 2 permitting in the second half of this year.

So if we move on to the next page on Santa Luz. We are on budget, on schedule. The overall budget is $103 million for the initial capex. This project will bring in 110,000 ounces a year for the first five years at an all-in sustaining cost overall of $877 per ounce on average.

And in the area, as I mentioned already, there’s excellent exploration potential, both near surface and also at depth. In the photos on the left, you can see the events that we have on the leach tanks. They’re going up well, the ball mill, which is in place. And there are lots of photos and videos on the website that I encourage you to have a look at, as well as the time lapse that shows the progress of the site.

And I want to congratulate the team. As of June, they achieved one-year LTI-free and 1.2 million ounce — 1.2 million hours LTI-free. So they had a recognition of that at site, and I just want to recognize that they’ve been going well, and they’re going to keep up that focus on safe construction. So turning the page to Greenstone.

It is one of the most attractive development assets in Canada. Previous underground mines produced over 4 million ounces in this area from the Greenstone Belt. It’s got a good — excellent reserve of 5.5 million ounces and the opportunity to produce 358,000 ounces per year over the initial 14-year mine life. The project benefits from excellent infrastructure being right on the Trans-Canada Highway.

Community and indigenous agreements are in place, and it’s fully permitted for construction. The early works are well advanced. The team is in place. We have a very experienced team that’s been with the project for, I would say, the better part of 10 years, advancing it and doing all the engineering and bringing the project up to this point.

And tree clearing, the first phase is already complete. The temporary camp is already — the first phase of it is already complete. And a temporary water effluent treatment plant is complete. So very good focus by the team moving that project forward.

And I’m going to hand it back to Christian.

Christian MilauChief Executive Officer

All right. Thanks, Doug. And I’m going to step back and look at the bigger picture on the next few slides here. And do want to emphasize our long-term focus here has been on growth.

It’s been on building a large diversified, top-tier gold mining company and during the downturn in the gold cycle. Although, obviously, gold held nicely at $1,800 and our producing assets are generating good cash flow, but what we see here on Slide No. 13 is the diversified portfolio is starting to come into place. And we’ve been really focused on all four of these countries and regions.

We’ve been building one mine per year. We’re working on expanding virtually every one of these countries in terms of production levels and reserve bases. The asset values and production will be split about a quarter, a quarter, a quarter between all four of these countries when we finished our job of expanding and developing them. And really what you do see is potential production growth from our expansion projects and exploration in all four of the countries.

So our goal here is not to be reliant on any one key asset or whatever, it’s to have a nice, diversified portfolio that can weather the ups and downs of the sector and cycles. So well on track to creating that through this portfolio. And when you look at the next slide, this is something we have talked about in the past. But I don’t want to lose sight of here.

We’re moving toward 1 million ounces of production there in that second column. We’ll be in that top tier of the mid-tiers and moving toward that senior level. our growth profile in the third column is at the top of the chart, the highest among peers of almost over 75% over the next three years as we develop and expand our assets. And our reserve base is already 16 million ounces.

And I think, as Doug alluded to, we’re pretty excited for what’s coming from Aurizona, Mesquite, the Bahia exploration programs, and we really do see opportunities, including Mexico as well to expand the reserve and resource base and not just deplete our ounces, but actually add to them over time. The portfolio we have is very prospective. And I think, we haven’t given it enough attention publicly, and we’ll start to do that as we finish this key investment year. And when you look at the far left, I mean, that’s the part here, which I think is exciting, but also a little bit disappointing, obviously, with the Los Filos blockade.

We’ve had a fall in the share price, but when I look at the value potential here on the price to net-asset-value basis, and we’re really at the bottom end of that scale. And we need to rebuild the confidence and the stability in the Los Filos situation, which we’re, obviously, determined to do. But the rerating will come. This investment year, we’re halfway through it or almost two-thirds of the way through it, and we’ll be seeing progressively better quarters here, Q3, at least slightly better than Q2 and Q1.

And Q4 should be a really good quarter as we move into the new year. And we turn it over on to Slide No. 15, how are we going to be able to deliver that and what kind of support do we have? And as Pete alluded to, the balance sheet is rock solid right now. $330 million of cash, it holds very firm, and we do our planning at more conservative gold prices.

But even assets like RDM, where we’re investing a lot of the cash flow back into the business is actually cash flow positive despite plans for it to be eating cash support from the corporate. So really pleasing to see that. We still got our $200 million availability on the revolver and a very strong lending and banking group that’s supporting us. And really exciting for me to see is the $420 million of investments, as Pete alluded to.

Solaris has just gone fantastically well. Richard and Dan have done a wonderful job there. And we always believe that asset to be worth a heck of a lot and would be worth as much as our debt one day, and I think it actually almost is right now. So well done to the team there and great to see.

And i-80 is at an earlier stage, but I know Ewan has ambitious plans, and we’ve given him great support to start, and I think he’ll be creating some wonderful value there as well. So we’re coming through that trough in terms of, call it, production cash flow, etc., for this year. Q3 will get progressively stronger, and Q4 should be a great quarter. We have a strong balance sheet.

We’ll be able to fund all our growth projects, including Greenstone. So I think, you will see exciting announcements to come in the second half of the year with some of our catalysts. And when I turn to the last slide, just to bring it all together, again, lots on the go or most of the way through this investment year. We’re working toward around 800,000 ounce type a year next year, which will be on the back of getting Santa Luz up and running, getting stability back into Los Filos and starting to hit our stride at mines like RDM and Mesquite.

So really exciting going into next year. We have reduced our guidance slightly in this quarter, but it’s still straddling that original level. We had 600,000 to 665,000 ounces. We’re still potential to do up to 625,000 ounces, and that’s despite a big disruption we had at Los Filos this year and a tough start with lots of investment going into our mines.

So kudos to the team for finding a way to keep that production level at a very respectable level. And I think, keep your eye out for the Aurizona underground study and exploration results coming from Aurizona and Bahia, also Mesquite. It’s the Energizer Bunny, as we always say. It just keeps on giving and giving here, had a two-and-a-half-year mine life, but still has that kind of mine life, and I think we’ll be increasing that in due course as well.

So really pleased with the results there and what the team has done at Mesquite. And we’ll be getting out our first consolidated reserve and resource update as well in the second half of this year. So that allow people to have a good, consolidated look at the business. And we’ll continue to support our investment companies.

And as we always sort of say, we’ll look at opportunistic M&A. But right now, we’re in really focused. We’ve got lots of projects to deliver, lots on the go. Team coming into place here is very strong, and I think we’re well prepared to deliver on these projects this year.

So keep an eye out for all those catalysts in the second half of this year. I think, I’ll end the formal part there, and thanks for your time and open up to questions.

Rhylin BailiePresident, Investor Relations

Perfect. Thanks, Christian. Operator, can you please remind people how to ask the questions.

Questions & Answers:

Operator

Certainly. [Operator instructions]

Rhylin BailiePresident, Investor Relations

Thank you. While we wait for our phone callers to queue up, I’ll take a couple of questions from online. Let’s just get the inevitable out of the way. What steps have you taken at Los Filos to manage the risk of further disruptions?

Christian MilauChief Executive Officer

Yeah, I mean, that’s something that we’re, obviously, laser-focused on, and stability there is the key goal, and partnership is a word we use a lot. So it’s been a tough go since we’ve taken over. We’ve had, obviously, the COVID overhang and taught us significant ability to visit the site to build relationships. We did change the senior level management during this process in about five, six months ago.

And I think, they’ve done a great job of actually getting engaged and involved with communities. And really establishing that we are all in this together and having that mine operating is to the benefit of all stakeholders there locally. And that’s something we’ve learned even more so in this most recent blockade situation is that all parties want this mine operating; government, unions, employees, us, all stakeholders that are getting some kind of benefit from it. And I think, what’s happened here is we have taken a fairly principled approach to resolving this.

We’re always open to working with our communities, employees and other stakeholders on finding resolutions and sharing in the benefits that this mine will provide for many years to come. But also, we do have to manage it ethically and responsibly and make sure that things are fair and fairly distributed. And a number of the requests that have come from whichever of these parties that’s had a challenge to the mine is looking for almost sole access to contracts, jobs, the economics. And we do have at least three communities to manage.

We have a union, we have employees, and we have governments as well. And we are fine to, obviously, create as much local sharing of the pie as possible, but we do need to make sure it’s fair as possible. And when we disadvantage one community, it, obviously, creates a problem over there. So we want to make sure that all communities understand that they affect each other as well.

And so I think, part of it has been a communication program. Part of it’s been also on certain areas. We have to take a bit of a principal view that we have contractual relationships and things that we must deliver on and we owe to other communities, unions and employees that we can’t break, and we do honor those. So I think, situation is also where the mine is not producing and people are not getting the economic benefits through salaries and contracts and that, which we can’t pay those indefinitely without operating, I think, has focused the mind of many people as well that everyone needs this mine operating.

So it’s been a painful process, and myself as a big enough shareholder has felt that pain as well. But I think, with that sort of principal approach, I think we are establishing that there are certain boundaries and areas that we can operate within and we can negotiate with them, but we can’t also accept certain things that disadvantage others, including the mine to a certain level as well. And I think, we’re setting a new baseline and way forward with the communities. And there is no guarantee.

I don’t want to mislead anyone in that sense, but I do think we’re slowly establishing those parameters. And we do have big plans to work with communities to build joint programs and partnerships. It will take time to rebuild that trust. But we have some very good people in there, and the spirit of the mine and the employees, which are members of the community mostly is actually quite good despite all this disruption.

So I’m quite optimistic, but it does need some time to heal those wounds.

Rhylin BailiePresident, Investor Relations

We’ll now take some questions from the phone, please.

Operator

The first question from the phone is from Dalton Baretto from Canaccord. Please go ahead.

Dalton BarettoCanaccord Genuity — Analyst

Thanks. Good morning, Christian and Pete. I kind of want to follow up on that same line of questioning there. So you touched on this a little bit in your prepared comments.

But Christian, can you give us a little bit more color in terms of how the blockade actually did get resolved? And what, if anything, you had to give up?

Christian MilauChief Executive Officer

Yeah, I mean, I’ll give you a bit more color. Obviously, I don’t go into all the intricate details, but the union situation, there’s requests for bonuses that are well beyond what’s owed and due in contracts and formulas. And that’s in a situation also where the mine is having a very challenging time. We can’t be entertaining that kind of demands, which ultimately are being demanded and not owed at all.

And so unfortunately, I guess, it resulted in this block — a legal blockade. And at the end of the day, what I think most of the employees realize is that actually lost wages add up to more than that very quickly and jobs are vitally important in the region and steady income. And at the end of the day, I think there was a loss in support for the action. And the groups voluntarily agreed to come back to work.

We didn’t have to really give up much, I mean, other than, obviously, the downtime and the impact on our financials and the morale, etc. But they came back to work in the end. So I wouldn’t say we’ve given up a lot in that sense. I hope we’ve earned some respect and trust in that process.

In terms of the community, again, I think it’s a brand-new community. They only own about 2% of the land. Most of it is, I think, in Guadalupe, and they have some exploration land. So very different than the other communities.

There’s very few people that actually work at the mine. So I think, part of the process is, I’m going to call it, education, maybe that’s not a fair word, but also getting familiar with mining, the economics of mining. We can’t process the ore in their community from the pit that they happen to own part of the land front. We have a processing site on site.

It has to be managed through regulations and locations that are, obviously, suitable. So part of it is just education. Part of it is we can’t give all jobs and all economics for, call it, that pit to one community because we do need to have flexibility to move our workforce and our contractors around the organization to be successful as possible. So all stakeholders make a good return on this.

And I think, at the end of the day, I think they understood that there is a need to have somewhat sharing in this. But also, I think there’s been pressures from, call it, the union. The district attorney was heavily involved to the state representative, all the way up to the federal government, although they really relied on the state to be involved. And the district attorney tried to help with, I call it, the education process, but also we filing criminal charges against groups that are legally blockading.

And I think, that has some impact as well that we’re serious about this. And we’re not just going to stand by and accept legal blockades on our land that we actually own. So I think, through a number of measures there, it resulted in, obviously, less support for a small group of leadership that was leading this blockade. I would say it wasn’t a wide community support for this.

I mean, honestly, I would suspect that not many people have much involvement with the mine in that community. It’s an hour and a half away, and there’s only 30 employees, so much less influence in that community. And over time, we’re just going to have to work with them on agreements and as we rent land for exploration, etc., to continue to build that trust with them.

Dalton BarettoCanaccord Genuity — Analyst

OK. And then, I know you said there’s no guarantees in your last response there. Is there anything you can put in place prior to sinking some real capital into the spend to build the plant and so on?

Christian MilauChief Executive Officer

Well, I think, something that we do want to do is get out and talk to them, get the messaging in front that we want to build some stability in partnership here, as we make decisions to invest in this mine. Obviously, we’re investing in Guadalupe and Bermejal as we speak, and they’re benefiting very significantly. And I think, those were the two key areas that that these groups focused on is there’s new jobs, new contracts, new investment there, and they want as much of that pie as possible. The CIL will be the next one, obviously.

And we want to proceed cautiously with that and build stability before we start investing in that, but we’ll take a bit of time, but we’re going to have to communicate. I’ll go see them with some of our senior leadership here and at site. And they need to understand that there are consequences ultimately to not having stability. We have three other extremely attractive countries and sites where we’re investing, call it, $1 billion of capital.

And we’ll continue to allocate the capital there. And as this one becomes more stable, we’ll reallocate capital back here.

Dalton BarettoCanaccord Genuity — Analyst

OK, good. And then, just one last one for me, and then I’ll jump back in queue. So the blockade was in place for about 34 days. A 50,000-ounce guidance cut seems disproportionate even with the Bermejal underground being pushed out.

Can you add some context around that? Like, I mean, how much are you actually expecting from the Bermejal underground? And is there anything else at play here?

Christian MilauChief Executive Officer

Yeah, I mean, I’ll let Doug piggyback on any of my comments here. But don’t forget that this is a big leach pad, you don’t just turn it on and off. So unfortunately, there’s time to ramp it up, and you have to get the solution flow going again. And this time, they absolutely ramped it right down when they had that union blockade.

So we had to turn the taps off in a certain sense. And so it will take a little time to ramp it up. But what it does also with all this development is it pushes some of those good months that were meant to add quite a few ounces into the new year. And that’s probably one of the biggest disproportionate impacts as well is that those ounces just get pushed out.

And really Bermejal, I don’t think attributes many tonnes of ore this year now, unfortunately.

Doug ReddyChief Operating Officer

No, it’s mostly development with small contribution at the very end of the year. So it sort of really pushed out the production from Guadalupe, pushed out ore contribution from Bermejal underground, and the impact of essentially bringing down the ounces on a leach pad and then having to bring it all back up again. It all pushes out what would have been a very good Q4, still gonna be a better second half of the year. But the very good finish to the year will actually be spilling over into 2022.

Christian MilauChief Executive Officer

And we do take it really serious. So we have almost 2,000 people working down there with COVID testing and getting people back to work. It doesn’t again just happen overnight. So we do have to work through that process and ease people back in, sort of retrain or redo some of the safety protocols just to get them up and ready to go.

And so it’s a little bit of a big shift to turn.

Dalton BarettoCanaccord Genuity — Analyst

Got it. Thanks for the color, guys. I’ll jump back in.

Operator

The next question is from Kerry Smith from Haywood Securities. Please go ahead.

Kerry SmithHaywood Securities — Analyst

Thanks, operator. So Christian, maybe just a follow-up on Los Filos again. If you’ve got 2,000 employees and you’ve already got 30 employees that are from Xochipala. I mean, if they want more, it seems like they’re already kind of at their pro rata share, if you will.

It’s roughly 2% or maybe it’s even right around 2%, I guess. So how do you deliver more jobs for that community when it seems like the pro rata formula maybe wouldn’t suggest that they deserve more jobs because that has to come at the expense of the other communities?

Christian MilauChief Executive Officer

Yeah, I mean, it is always tricky with all the communities on that kind of front. And certainly, with Xochipala one thing that we are doing is we’ve committed to training program so we can end up with some skilled labor in the region from that community. I think, we’re making a little bit more of a — call it, an overt commitment to hiring some of those people that come out trained. So it’s not perfect.

But the other side of it too is, I think — I don’t want to get too far ahead of myself, but sort of looking at Scott and Doug around the table is some of the future exploration upside and that is in their land. They have a long, call it, strip of land coming to their community right into ultimately the Guadalupe pit. And some of the future exploration and excitement certainly is in that exploration area. So what we see and we’re articulating to them, and I think we need to continue to do this is we have a small piece of actually exploitation land that they get paid for sort of job, etc.

But that exploration, probably a lot of that feature, is on their land. So there’s more to come, but we can’t jump ahead of the queue, and they do need to allow us the time to explore. We pay less, obviously, per hectare for exploration land because we’re not exploiting it, and it will come. And so I think, a little bit of patience is required there and education on the timing and process.

So that’s how I see it.

Kerry SmithHaywood Securities — Analyst

OK. And just on the three communities that just so aren’t clear, do you have agreements in place with all three communities today? And Xochipala just chose to basically ignore that agreement. Is that kind of what happened?

Christian MilauChief Executive Officer

Yeah, we do have agreements in place with all three communities. And with Xochipala we do have an exploration and an exploitation agreement. I’ll be really straight up here is that there’s also a misunderstanding, I think, by them on really exploration versus exploitation. They see it as all the same thing.

If you’re there drilling on land, it’s almost like you’re mining it. And Doug, if you had any comments, please add them. But that’s — I think part of the process is kind of explaining that once we’re mining for gold and making profit from it, we, obviously, pay a higher rate for, call it, access to that land. But when we’re exploring it, it’s all of our risk capital going into the ground.

Doug ReddyChief Operating Officer

We had agreements with Carrizalillo and Mezcala for since the start of the mine, I guess, in 2008 or so. And the agreements for those two communities were renewed in 2019. Xochipala, this was the first time an agreement had been established with Xochipala. So it’s a new relationship.

But as Christian mentioned, very important properties on the south end of our mining leases — mining license, very prospective, and it impacts the Guadalupe open pit very small piece of ground, but it’s important to us. And so it’s been essentially working through the buildup of a newer relationship with Xochipala versus the other community that we’ve been working with for over a decade.

Kerry SmithHaywood Securities — Analyst

Right. And so Doug, the agreements you have with Carrizalillo and Mezcala, those were renewed in 2019. And were they six-year or five-year terms, I forget?

Doug ReddyChief Operating Officer

Five for Carrizalillo, and I think it’s 10 for Mezcala.

Kerry SmithHaywood Securities — Analyst

OK. And then, the new agreement that you struck with Xochipala, what would the term be on that agreement? Is it five? Or is it 10?

Doug ReddyChief Operating Officer

No, the new one there is 20 years. Exploration, I think, is a shorter term. I think, it’s — I’m not sure it’s annually, but every few years it gets renewed, but the exploitation is a 20-year mark.

Kerry SmithHaywood Securities — Analyst

OK, gotcha. OK. And just a question on — maybe Doug can answer this on Castle Mountain. What is the issue with the percolation means of oxide ore body? I’ve been there.

There’s really no clays at all. I’m just wondering why you’re having these percolation issues. And then, secondarily to that, the mining cost per tonne seems really high at Castle Mountain. I’m not sure why that’s the case.

Mesquite seems like probably a good comp, and it’s significantly less on a per-ton basis. So I just wonder if you could comment on those two issues.

Doug ReddyChief Operating Officer

Sure. It’s find, not place. This is JSLA material is — previously mined material is put into the JSLA open pit. So there’s a fair component of find in that material.

And when we initially were irrigating the leach pads with spray emitters essentially, there was a penetration problem. So several things have been tried. I would say the most productive approach has been varying emitters, which is, of course, takes a while to step through and try each change. If you do model it once, you don’t know which thing is working.

So it’s been a process of working it through. And the bearing of the emitters has been the most successful one, which has allowed us to ramp up our gallons per minute that are being applied to the pad and essentially doubling the production between Q1 and Q2. We continue to work on other efforts, but we know that the percolation is a key item and driven by high percentage of clients. Mining costs, it’s essentially —

Pete HardieChief Financial Officer

It is a contractor, number one, versus owner mining.

Christian MilauChief Executive Officer

Yeah, and trucking over to the leach pad. So it’s been run of mine, and I would have to look into if there’s anything else abnormal about it.

Pete HardieChief Financial Officer

Yeah, I think, it’s also — it’s Peter here. It’s in part just a lower denominator, Kerry. While the production has come up significantly from Q1, it’s not quite at the level we would expect it. And so, obviously, it’s not a large production volume.

So with that reduced denominator, it just amplifies on a per-unit basis.

Kerry SmithHaywood Securities — Analyst

So the lower — the denominator you’re referring to is lower tonnes, not lower ounces, obviously?

Pete HardieChief Financial Officer

Yeah.

Kerry SmithHaywood Securities — Analyst

Yeah, OK, OK. And so Doug, is the bearing emitters, do you think that’s the best solution now like you’ve kind of got that fine tune and that’s the solution you’re going to run with and now you can focus on other areas to try and get the production up? Is that kind of the goal here?

Doug ReddyChief Operating Officer

No, we’re not resting on that. We’ve got more to do. And it’s been a very — I’ll applaud the efforts that have been done by the team at site for the series of actions that they’ve taken and to methodically work their way through. And they have a couple more things that they want to try, which we’re just going through at the moment.

So I would say that it’s an important process of being able to step through and get higher percolation and, obviously, better recovery overall, and that’s what we’ve been doing. It takes a while in the leach pad.

Kerry SmithHaywood Securities — Analyst

Yeah, of course, OK, OK. And maybe just one last question for Peter. The G&A quarterly run rate. I mean, it fluctuates a lot quarter over quarter.

What would be a good run rate going forward on a quarterly basis or an annual basis, whatever you prefer for G&A?

Pete HardieChief Financial Officer

For G&A — sorry, I didn’t hear the initial part of your question. Yes, it was higher in the quarter for a couple of different reasons. One, we, obviously, had a lot of transaction costs that flowed through with respect to professional fees due to corporate activity, the sale of Pilar, the Premier acquisition. And then, also during the quarter, there was a cleanup item related to share-based comp, and that was about $4 million.

And that was an integration of the Leagold and Equinox plans that carried over, unfortunately, until now and was resolved in this quarter. We expect about $7.5 million a quarter overall as a run rate. We tend to think of it in dollars per ounce. And so on an annualized basis, normalized basis, we would expect to be in around $40 an ounce.

Kerry SmithHaywood Securities — Analyst

OK, that’s helpful. Thanks very much.

Rhylin BailiePresident, Investor Relations

Thanks, Kerry. I’ll take a couple of questions from online. We have a whole bunch of questions about all-in sustaining costs, and I’m going to try to combine into one. So you’ve raised your all-in sustaining cost guidance, but you say there will be lower cost in the second half of this year.

So just trying to figure out what your all-in sustaining costs are going to look like sort of into ’22? And then, even further down the road, when you hit that 1 million-ounce goal, what would your all-in sustaining cost target be at that point?

Christian MilauChief Executive Officer

I mean, I’ll take the high-level question. Pete, please jump in if there’s anything more granular or details that you can add. From an overall long-term perspective, I think what you’re going to see is, as we move into and finish these investments in some of the mines, you’ll see the costs naturally come down. We’re putting big investment into areas like Mesquite and RDM, stripping in that.

And a lot of that or part of that goes into, call it, sustaining capital, so it affects all-in costs, but also when you’re opening up some of these new areas you end up with higher grades, more production, bigger denominator. So you’ll naturally see some of those costs come down. Then you have the additional impact and benefit of Santa Luz, Greenstone, certain expansions, projects that will be naturally lower cost. Those are the projects that are the prize for us where we want to get Greenstone up and running, which has got a very low all-in sustaining cost.

As we get Santa Luz up and running, it has a lower all-in sustaining cost. So you have the benefit of the operating mines we’re investing in coming down over time. The bigger kind of longer-life, high-quality projects that we’re developing and putting into place will actually have a lower cost. So the average will come down.

In terms of this year, just H1 versus H2, I think the increase in the all-in sustaining cost, there’s probably two key factors that jump out to me are Los Filos had a big outsized impact for H1 is $2,000 an ounce effectively. So that brings up our all-in cost across the whole year because you’re going to have a much lower cost for the second half, but you had a much higher cost in the first half, so your average is higher. Just a simple math of it. And we have one or two sites in addition to that that have a similar metric where H1 was higher cost.

So on average, just bring up this average for the year. But also there’s a bit of inflation in there. And I don’t want to overplay that, but give or take, 5% in certain areas, fuel, reagents, etc., that’s having a little bit of an impact as well. We’re still getting benefits of FX or foreign exchange offsetting that and certainly in Brazil.

Rhylin BailiePresident, Investor Relations

Good. OK. Given the undervaluation of your stock, are you considering share buyback?

Christian MilauChief Executive Officer

It’s a really good question. I mean, it’s something we would love to do. But one thing we are focused on right now is we have a lot of capital in front of us, a lot of investment to make. And we have to look at those trade-offs.

And I think, with Greenstone coming up, finishing off Santa Luz, still investing in a couple of other assets, that’s where our capital is best allocated and spent today. As we start to get more visibility come through that, announce those projects, start to deliver on them, we certainly — if the share price isn’t moving, we certainly wanna be looking at something like share buybacks along the way. But I think, for as of today we want to commit that capital to investing in our assets.

Pete HardieChief Financial Officer

And I think, it’s fair to say that, longer term, we absolutely wanna be returning capital to shareholders. That’s the whole plan of investing now for future growth and then returning that — making those returns for shareholders.

Rhylin BailiePresident, Investor Relations

Operator, we’ll take the remaining questions from the phone, please?

Operator

Certainly. The next question over the phone is from Anita Soni from CIBC World Markets. Please go ahead.

Anita SoniCIBC World Markets — Analyst

Hi. First question is with regards to Los Filos and the $83 million that you have in non-sustaining capital there this year. Could you just give me an idea of what that’s being spent on this year then?

Christian MilauChief Executive Officer

I mean, I’ll give a very high level, and either Doug or Pete has a little granularity, they can add to it. But I mean, the key areas, obviously, are opening up Bermejal and Guadalupe. There’s lots of stripping that was particularly in the first half of the year at Guadalupe and Bermejal. That kind of continues on for this year.

As those are brand-new ore bodies adding to the mine life, those are, call it, growth projects for us. Those are the two key areas.

Pete HardieChief Financial Officer

Yeah.

Anita SoniCIBC World Markets — Analyst

OK. So that number — was that reduced from prior number? Or was that the same number that you had before?

Christian MilauChief Executive Officer

No, it’s slightly reduced.

Pete HardieChief Financial Officer

Yeah, we reduced it by $12 million from before.

Anita SoniCIBC World Markets — Analyst

OK. All right. And then, next question, I guess, is with regards just more of a big picture. So I noticed on the slide bar on Slide 16, you’ve got — sorry, on Slide 16 that you’ve got 800,000 ounces, is the kind of what you’re gearing toward for 2022 in terms of production.

I think, that’s taking into account the impact of Los Filos. Is there — can you just give us an idea if any proportion of that is maybe assuming a slower start-up at C1 Santa Luz? Or is it still kind of 100,000-plus for next year?

Christian MilauChief Executive Officer

Well, for next year, I mean, whether we achieve 100,000 or not depends on the date we actually pour gold and get to that commercial production, but it probably will not be far off that. We expect to pour gold in the first quarter. So if we have a really quick ramp-up of like Aurizona of four to six weeks, then you’ll be probably pushing toward 100,000. If it’s a little bit slower, probably a bit later.

But you’ll have the addition, obviously, to get the 800,000 of Santa Luz. You have — Mesquite has — it’s hitting that brownie stride in Q4, where it’s actually stacking a lot of ore in Q3 and Q4 this year, and that falls right through to next year. So you see a sort of nice improvement there. Aurizona is producing at a nice steady level.

We’ve got a full year from Castle as well. And obviously, Los Filos, hopefully, will be an uninterrupted year next year.

Anita SoniCIBC World Markets — Analyst

OK. And then, the last question I just wanted to ask. Given one of your competitors or colleagues, I guess, in the business at Cote is struggling with capital cost inflation in their new project build. Have you taken — or will you take a look at the feasibility study for Hardrock to reassess as you start that capital spend into the second half of the year?

Christian MilauChief Executive Officer

Yeah, absolutely. I mean, one of the key jobs, I think, for us is we’ve taken over. We’ve hired a head of projects here in Vancouver, and her first job is to actually look at that. Also working very closely with Orion and the project team just to make sure when we come out with a capital number we’re standing behind it, we’re comfortable.

Looking at all COVID impacts, cost escalations, which, obviously, there is some out there and challenges that other operators and builders have had, and foreign exchange is another piece that’s separate to the actual project. But it’s something that we need to manage as well, which I think we can do from a corporate perspective. So absolutely, when we come out with our initial capital number, we’ll factor in any of those points. And hopefully, you’ll see that in the next few months.

Anita SoniCIBC World Markets — Analyst

OK. And then, just in terms of the original capital spend, or I think maybe you guys had indicated that you were trying to sort of push that in the next 24 or 30 months. Could phasing that capex spend be an option? Or would you still want to accelerate the capital?

Pete HardieChief Financial Officer

Sorry, are we just talking about Greenstone specifically here?

Anita SoniCIBC World Markets — Analyst

Yes, we’re talking about Hardrock, yes.

Pete HardieChief Financial Officer

Yeah. So yes — or sorry, no, we’re not planning to phase it. Sorry, I don’t want to give you any indication. No, we think the best way to do it, and in our methodology and thinking here, and I know Ross stands behind this as well, build the mine right, don’t try and build it in phases or cut corners to push capital into the operating period.

We’ve seen that happen way too many times. Let’s make sure it’s well financed, well understood, and let’s deliver the project that will actually be the best operating project on Day 1. So now we don’t have any intention to phase it.

Anita SoniCIBC World Markets — Analyst

That’s it for my question. Thank you for taking my questions.

Christian MilauChief Executive Officer

Yeah, thanks.

Operator

The next question is from John Tumazos from John Tumazos Very Independent Research. Please go ahead. John, your line is open.

Rhylin BailiePresident, Investor Relations

We’ll go to the next question.

Operator

Next question is from Wayne Lam from RBC. Please go ahead.

Wayne LamRBC Capital Markets — Analyst

Good morning. I was just wondering, in Mexico, there seems to be a lot more scrutiny recently around subcontracting and PTU payments. I’m just wondering kind of to what extent do you guys subcontract at Los Filos and if you might be able to provide kind of a ballpark amount that’s paid out annually in terms of the PTU profit sharing payments at the mine.

Christian MilauChief Executive Officer

Yeah, I mean, there is some — there are some changes coming to the laws and how that outsourcing and contracting is coming. I mean, it’s still in, call it, the investigation and review phase. I don’t know that number off the top of my head, I have to admit Wayne. So I can’t give you — I’m not going to even ballpark it for you there.

But the team at site is well versed in this. They are experienced operators in Mexico, and we’ll adapt the mine as necessary with the contractors to make it work. And it may be a slight shifting into a profit sharing into the entity and bringing employees, call it, in-house a bit more. Do we expect it to have much impact? I don’t think it’s going to have a massive impact.

It may shift how our costs. It shouldn’t from an outward perspective how much impact or you shouldn’t see it, but it may shift on where the, call it the, profit sharing or bonus or whatever is paid out and allocated.

Wayne LamRBC Capital Markets — Analyst

OK, perfect. And then, just curious, kind of thinking about that path to 1 million ounces, obviously, the expansion at Los Filos was a big part of that. Given some of the interruptions that have happened over the past year, and you guys had talked to, one, to see more stability. Kind of how should we think about the timing of that expansion? And are you guys still comfortable moving ahead with that over the near term and proceeding with the CIL plant?

Christian MilauChief Executive Officer

Yeah, I think, it’s still a key part of our investment in the future for that mine. I mean, it’s a great line and great deposit there. And what we want to do, and maybe we just proceed a little more cautiously here, but we want to rebuild the stability, indicate to them that until we have that clear stability, we won’t invest in that CIL yet, but it will be on the radar. So maybe we don’t launch into it quite as quickly here in the second half of the year.

We still need to get the study out as well, and then we can use that to articulate what the plans are to, call it, the communities and local stakeholders. We will continue, obviously, investing in Guadalupe and Bermejal underground. Those are, obviously, well underway, and Guadalupe is most of the way there. But we may just take a little bit more cautious approach to the CIL.

And the good thing here, I guess, is that we don’t need the CIL to operate it. It’s more efficient, obviously, with certain parts of the deposit to run it through the CIL plant, but ounces are not lost. They may be just deferred if we put some of that material on the leach pad and ultimately reprocess some of it later.

Wayne LamRBC Capital Markets — Analyst

OK, great. And then, maybe just on the cost inflation that was flagged. Would you be able to provide a bit more detail in terms of percentage terms and what you’re seeing on labor and cyanide reagents within the U.S. and Brazil?

Pete HardieChief Financial Officer

Yeah. It’s Peter here. We’re not seeing as much on labor to date. It’s definitely more on the energy.

So in Brazil, electricity and diesel and then — and also on consumables. So on an overall basis, you call it about 5%, and we’re seeing it similar in the U.S., say, 5% of the overall cost structure in each jurisdiction. And in the U.S., it’s more on fuel and reagents as well. OK, I suppose you could add grinding media to the issue in Brazil.

I mean, you hate to use the term, but I think the whole world is probably on a wait and see on are these gonna be structural increases or is this just a COVID recovery supply chain issue that’s going to come down over time. And we’re in the same position.

Wayne LamRBC Capital Markets — Analyst

OK, got it. And kind of on that similar line, maybe in terms of budgeting at Santa Luz, I just seen it, it’s tracking well on budget, but how are you guys kind of thinking about costs as we head into the ramp-up here?

Doug ReddyChief Operating Officer

We’re on — for Santa Luz construction, we’re on budget, and we’ve spent a lot of time going through everything in regards to first bills and the remainder of the construction, all the equipment, over 90% of — I think over 95% of materials for the construction is already on site. So we’re well advanced on Santa Luz, and I think we’re good.

Christian MilauChief Executive Officer

In terms of operations, obviously, we’ve got Fazenda and Aurizona and others around as, call it, benchmarks. And we’re actually even, call it, using some of the similar people that were operating some of our other mines. So we’ve got a good basis. We’re also using the same mining contractor.

And we now have the volume benefit. We have three mines on the same contractor. And so believe Santa Luz may be our most favorable contract out of the three. So hopefully, that helps offset any kind of, call it, cost pressures.

And as Doug said, I think the guys are saying the other day there may be only three pieces of equipment that still are to arrive on site. And they are peripheral. They’re none of the big mills or any of the core pieces of equipment. So fortunately, any of those logistics challenges are probably behind us generally at Santa Luz.

Doug ReddyChief Operating Officer

And as a multi-mine producer, we, of course, look at the opportunities where we can for being able to do purchasing beyond just individual sites. So that effort is ongoing in the background because we know that’s an important thing to be doing at this time. And it reaps benefits if there’s continued escalation. But long term, obviously, benefits us no matter what if we can do group purchasing and bring overall costs down.

So that’s going on as well.

Christian MilauChief Executive Officer

And another thing that we’re looking at, and this is a look forward quite a ways, is there’s opportunities to look to independent green power in Brazil, but also at other locations. And I’m not going to promise anything today, but there’s some major mining, and other companies that are already involved in taking power from these facilities and having production facilities built that are proving fantastic from a cost perspective. But also from an ESG perspective because they’re using renewable sources of energy. So kind of win-win in that sense.

And we’re very serious about looking at those kinds of opportunities, partly because it’s a smart business in terms of costs, but it’s also great from an ESG perspective. And as we get our baselines for all of our emissions and things that becomes more in focus for us.

Wayne LamRBC Capital Markets — Analyst

OK. I think, that’s all for me. Thank you.

Christian MilauChief Executive Officer

Thanks.

Rhylin BailiePresident, Investor Relations

Thank you, everybody, for joining us today. That’s the end of our questions. If you do think of anything, please do not hesitate to get in touch. I will turn it back over to Christian for closing remarks.

Christian MilauChief Executive Officer

Thanks, Rhylin. And I think, it’s a pretty comprehensive run-through. And as I said earlier on, we’re really looking forward to the second half of this year. It’s been a little bit more of a challenge in the first half.

We knew it would be. It was well telegraphed. And second half should be pretty exciting. So stay tuned for Q3 and Q4.

Thank you very much.

Rhylin BailiePresident, Investor Relations

Operator, you can now disconnect the lines.

Operator

[Operator signoff]

Duration: 66 minutes

Call participants:

Rhylin BailiePresident, Investor Relations

Christian MilauChief Executive Officer

Pete HardieChief Financial Officer

Doug ReddyChief Operating Officer

Dalton BarettoCanaccord Genuity — Analyst

Kerry SmithHaywood Securities — Analyst

Anita SoniCIBC World Markets — Analyst

Wayne LamRBC Capital Markets — Analyst

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